# Linus' Filesystem Fluster

URL: /show/linux-unplugged/336/
> Linus Torvalds says don't use ZFS, but we think he got a few of the facts wrong. Jim Salter joins us to help us explain what Linus got right, and what he got wrong.

- Show: [LINUX Unplugged](/show/linux-unplugged/)
- Episode: 336
- Date: 2020-01-14
- Hosts: chris, wes
- Guests: jim-salter
- Duration: 00:53:31
- Audio: https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/f31a453c-fa15-491f-8618-3f71f1d565e5/c90c9f1e-fcfe-4ef1-ac0d-1e2cd29ca025.mp3
- YouTube: https://youtu.be/VLCWp6T8x1U





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