# Paper Cuts Deep

URL: /show/coder-radio/88/
> Mike and Chris use the recent drama around Paper and Flappy Bird to have a wider discussion about the forces against Indie developers. And our reactions to the CEO change at Microsoft.

Plus some great feedback, and more!

- Show: [Coder Radio](/show/coder-radio/)
- Episode: 88
- Date: 2014-02-10
- Hosts: chris, michael
- Duration: 01:12:55
- Audio: https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/b44de5fa-47c1-4e94-bf9e-c72f8d1c8f5d/047caaa1-192e-4d3b-8e3c-d4275ad012a7.mp3
- YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLgXzBxypmc