# Second-Class Desktop

URL: /show/coder-radio/427/
> Chris makes a big mistake on the road, and Mike drops some reality-based sage wisdom.

- Show: [Coder Radio](/show/coder-radio/)
- Episode: 427
- Date: 2021-08-18
- Hosts: chris, michael
- Duration: 00:39:04
- Audio: https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/b44de5fa-47c1-4e94-bf9e-c72f8d1c8f5d/311a3c86-3abb-4b25-94eb-21989ca44f90.mp3
- YouTube: https://youtu.be/kRHwdVSEyjY



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