# Staring into Sun

URL: /show/coder-radio/302/
> Sun Microsystems was fertile ground for what might be the largest developer upset in ten years. 

- Show: [Coder Radio](/show/coder-radio/)
- Episode: 302
- Date: 2018-03-29
- Hosts: chris, michael
- Duration: 01:06:25
- Audio: https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/b44de5fa-47c1-4e94-bf9e-c72f8d1c8f5d/34457866-67d3-43d5-a043-a5982929f2e7.mp3
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okKiwrsh3S4





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