# Wandering in the Woods

URL: /show/coder-radio/162/
> We look at the tough spot developers are finding themselves in, the huge changes in backend infrastructure over the years, some Swift surprises & the big topics Mike’s been chewing on during his “down time”.

- Show: [Coder Radio](/show/coder-radio/)
- Episode: 162
- Date: 2015-07-13
- Hosts: chris, michael
- Duration: 00:40:54
- Audio: https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/b44de5fa-47c1-4e94-bf9e-c72f8d1c8f5d/7637c283-8806-48ef-b5e1-70ff83915ca3.mp3
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jVqberTtEY