# Macs Exodus

URL: /show/coder-radio/135/
> Is the quality of Apple’s desktop and mobile software causing a slow bleeding of developers? Chris & Mike debate what developers will do over 2015.

Plus we read some great follow up, feature a community project & more!

- Show: [Coder Radio](/show/coder-radio/)
- Episode: 135
- Date: 2015-01-05
- Hosts: chris, michael
- Duration: 00:53:46
- Audio: https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/b44de5fa-47c1-4e94-bf9e-c72f8d1c8f5d/bd678436-f911-46fe-9db6-a53ec7ac81ea.mp3
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gbdggIm_T4